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January 3, 1993, Sunday
'Comedy Is Sort Of Genetic, You Have To Have A Knack Or Inclination In
The First Place' Wild, Crazy And Serious Guy The Main Drawback With Being
Steve Martin Is That Everybody Expects You To Be Funny All Of The Time. But
His Next Film, Leap Of Faith, He Is Convinced, Should Sort Out Such
Expectations. Martin Has A Very, Very Serious Talk With Arts Editor Richard
Mowe
'Philosophy gave me a sense of the absurd ... Disney, of course, gave
me a sense of fun'
THE trademark steel grey hair that stands out like a beckoning universal
beacon for celebrity hungry crowds, has become strangely corncoloured.
Underneath there is no mistaking Steve Martin who, unlike his usual manic
movie personae, emerges as polite, intelligent, articulate, and overburdened
by the demands of being required to be perpetually funny.
"The biggest problem is when you say a perfectly straight line such as
'What time is it?' or 'Can I have a glass of water' and the whole room falls
about in hysterics," he says.
And to prove the point his audience of selected journalists titter on
cue.
There is something about Martin that invites laughter even when he is
trying to restrain himself.
When he started out, he claims to have made "intentionally very silly
movies" (his Academy Award nominated short, The Absent Minded Waiter, The
Jerk and the scifi wheeze, The Man with Two Brains among them) but recently
his roles have been more characterbased, and dare he say it, "serious", such
as the cameo of a bullying producer in Lawrence Kasdan's Grand Canyon and
his selfpenned, LA Story.
"Early in a career, it is easy to surprise people because they do not
know what to expect. Then you realise as you mature that it is still easy to
surprise and upset people precisely because they do have expectatio ns of
you as a 'star'. So, you turn the tables on yourself, which is what I hope
the next film will do."
In Leap of Faith, directed by Richard Pearce, he plays an evangelistic
preacher who tries to con the inhabitants of a small Kansas town, assisted
by his business partner Debra Winger and a hot gospel choir, Angels of
Mercy.
He comes into conflict with Liam Neeson as the sheriff who tries to
protect the locals from parting with their cash.
"It's a flashy part with a lot of Bible thumping preaching, music, dance,
and all kinds of things. My hair was died blonde for the part usually in
America it is a dead giveaway, and I am always mobbed. And you know who mobs
me most? Michael Jackson's body guards," says Martin, slipping back into
funny mode.
He believes audiences will be astonished by the new role.
"He is a bad guy, sexually dubious, and he heals people with his hands.
It's all about the hypocrisy of religion, and similar in some ways to Elmer
Gantry from Sinclair Lewis's novel."
Gantry gave Burt Lancaster an Oscar as the salesman with the gift of the
gab from God.
Martin has no truck with awards which is just as well as early reviews in
the States have not been overly enthusiastic about the film, although his
performance has its admirers.
"Usually the best actor award goes to someone who played a handicapped
person who cried, not that I'm disparaging any of the performances. I have
never been nominated, that is why I am bitter," he says.
Leap of Faith was filmed in his home state Texas last year.
He was born in Waco, although he grew up in Orange County, southern
California.
His mother was a housewife, his father sold real estate and the family
were strict Baptists.
He recalls "always trying to be funny, even in grade school", which may
have helped to make up for what friends describe as a fairly miserable
childhood.
He declines to talk about it.
His inspirational spark came from American TV comedians in the 1950s and
from Laurel and Hardy and Chaplin to John Cleese and the Pythons.
When he is not performing publicly or for the media, he withdraws into a
world of crossword puzzles, cats and computers.
As a teenager his first job was at Disneyland.
"I performed magic tricks at Merlin's Magic Shop in Fantasyland, and was
self taught by practising in front of a mirror. I got the job at 14, and by
working there over the next three years I beame pretty adept. And I can
still do a few tricks," he says.
At college he became interested in the writings of Wittgenstein and Kant
to the extent he thought about becoming a philosophy professor.
"Philosophy affected me in a way that is hard to describe but it gave me
a sense of the absurd, a sense of the relative value of things, and a sense
that the things we take so seriously maybe aren't. Disney, of course, gave
me a sense of fun and when you combine the two, you might have something."
Instead he followed his natural comic bent ("it's sort of genetic, you
have to have a knack or inclination in the first place").
By the late 1960s he was performing his own material in the clubs and on
television.
He recalls being on the circuit as "tough" but claims he was young enough
not to feel it.
"Going from town to town, it was kinda romantic," he says.
At the time he was at the cutting edge of comedy, hosting the innovative
Saturday Night Live while winning Grammy awards for his first two comedy
albums Let's Get Small and Wild and Crazy Guy.
The series catapulted him from 500 seat halls to giant 20,000 seat
concert arenas including a reputation building series of concerts at the
Universal Amphitheatre in LA with the Blues Brothers and attended by all the
studio execs.
"When you are in your twenties you can do things you cannot do in your
forties," says the 46yearold.
"In your forties you are more aware of the kind of damage you can do to
people. You tend to target people less, and think more about what you are
saying, whereas in your twenties you are out there to be confrontational,
and iconoclastic. That kind of comedy is for young people; dramas that
explode myths are more for adults and that's what Leap of Faith is all
about."
Comedy, he stresses, is harder because there are more choices to distil
down to one.
In a drama the story is told "in the most truthful way you can."
He has stretched his talents on stage as Vladimir with Robin Williams as
the other tramp clown in Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot.
"It must be performed with a sense of fun. If you play it seriously and
invest it with importance then it is boring. It has to be played with
lightness, speed and freedom. That is what I learnt, to contrast the
seriousness of the words against the lightness of the character. I came away
from the experience thinking that it must be one of the greatest plays ever
written," he says.
Martin believes that the secret to good comedy is to play it like a drama
and to let your mind go off in any direction.
The more absurd an issue appears, the straighter and more earnest it
should be played.
When his comedies occasionally fail to hit home, he takes it personally
"because that is what I do."
"Some scenes we will shoot in two ways because we never know exactly if
it is going to be funny until we see how an audience reacts. If it is a
downer we can substitute the other version and hope for the best."
He was deeply disappointed when Herbert Ross's film of Dennis Potter's
Pennies from Heaven failed to make the grade.
"I felt an intense emotional involvement because I was there to serve
this brilliant script. Anyway I don't consider it was a failure it was
simply a box office flop. Luckily, I haven't had any of those for a while
and fortunately I'm still bankable."
He has a coterie of directors with whom he likes to work.
One of them is a former standup, Carl Reiner (Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid)
who remains a close friend.
Martin recently was asked to do a crazy comedy, and he turned him down.
"I felt I had moved on both emotionally and physically. I'm now into
characters where you think this guy is a bad guy but there is something sort
of likeable there. I like playing characters that are all mixed up, rather
than all good or all bad."
He points to the progression from such nonsense as The Man with Two
Brains in 1983 to Roxanne, his version of Cyrano, and Ron Howard's
Parenthood in 1989, although his most recent offering, Housesitter this year
marked a regression to screwball.
Before we part Martin proffers his card which he has just taken to
distributing instead of laboriously signing his autograph.
"Well, it makes sense because they get the signature and dash back to
show it to their friends who always ask: 'What was he like?' and invariably
from the two and a half seconds in my presence they have no idea. The card
gives the answer."
It says: This certifies that you have had a personal encounter with me
and that you found me warm, polite, intelligent and funny."
Joking apart, that just about sums him up.
Richard Mowe interviewed Steve Martin at the Deauville Film Festival.
Leap of Faith will be released in April.